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Retiring Illinois Lawmakers Make Bank on the Way Out

The representatives and senators leaving office in January 2013 will see millions of dollars in pension payments, figures far more sizable than they would've seen in the private sector.

Are you worried about your own retirement? With the downturn in the economy, did your 401k and savings take a big hit? If so, you're like millions of other Americans forced to confront a dramatically different outlook for their post-work years. But one group of pensioners is largely insulated from such concerns — outgoing Illinois lawmakers.

The retirement benefits Illinois legislators receive are far more generous than those most of their constituents could collect working full-time jobs, reports Scott Reeder of the Reeder Report, using data from an Illinois Policy Institute analysis in a piece published on Watchdog.org.

The anticipated pension benefits of the 34 lawmakers who will depart the state legislature in January show these pensioners will see better returns than they ever could have investing on their own dime.

State Sen. Chris Lauzen, who has been in office since 1983 and served on the Committee on Pensions and Investments, the Subcommittee on Pension Enhancements and the Subcommittee on Pension Reform, put $141,358 into his state pension plan. The Kane County Republican will leave office with a projected annual pension of $63,384 and a lifetime payout of more than $1.8 million, reports Reeder. 

An annuity with that kind of payout through the private sector would cost 10 times as much at $1.4 million, according to analysis by Jonathan Ingram at the Illinois Policy Institute, who computed the pensions of the outgoing legislators and the cash a private-sector worker would need to be able to purchase an annuity of equal benefit. (You can see the results of Ingram's work in the chart that accompanies this post.)

How do experts on pensions view these figures?

“Public pensions are inherently corrupt because it is the lawmakers deciding what their own pensions will be,” said Frank Keegan, an editor with State Budget Solutions. ...

Edward Zelinski, a law professor at Cardozo School of Law in New York and a national authority on pensions, called the Illinois legislative pensions “offensive.”

“I can’t say it is the most egregious in the nation, but I can say it is hard to believe there are many – or any – that are more egregious,” he said.

The lawmakers who leave office in January collectively are eligible for more than $25 million in pension payouts. The state legislature still has no plan to fix the $200 billion state pension shortfall, either.

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Jim Court December 16, 2012 at 06:12 pm
Social groups
Fraternities Gangs Colors Loyalty Allegiance In the line of duty Symbols Brotherhood Danger I read some of these descriptions in an article the other day. The commonality intrigued me.
G.Ryan December 16, 2012 at 06:24 pm
Let's get it on the ballot and vote for term limits and no more pensions for the gangster politicians. I bet Blago will get his pension. Folks, these politicians are the new mafia. Is it also true that the US President gets 180,000 for life, House/Senate 174,000, Speaker 223,500 and the Majority/Minority leaders 193,400? If so, wake up America!
Marie December 16, 2012 at 06:28 pm
If the legislators choose not to explain their self-serving actions to their own constituents, maybe the Patch editors could do more than just report and actually interview them with specific follow-up questions and post the video on-line. Ask Cross, Kosel, Radogno, etc. what their pensions and benefits cost us now and what they will cost us and our children in the future, and what they have actually done to address the pension problem. They are not worth the money and benefits they are taking from us.
Dan December 16, 2012 at 07:45 pm
Ron, I'm fine with taxing both private and public pensions. What exactly don't you think I understand? Many other states tax pension income so I don't think it is such a far fetched idea for the state with the largest pension underfunding to start taxing retirement income. So why is it okay to tax someone currently working to say earn $40,000 but not okay to tax someone receiving a similar amount in retirement income. I guess you have to be retired to appreciate the diference.
Sue Klinkhamer December 16, 2012 at 07:52 pm
Not paying into a second pension fund is NOT the same as taking your pension while getting a salary from your current job. I need some clarification:
Is Chris Lauzen going to collect his pension from the State AND take the salary from the citizens of Kane County?? That, though completely legal, is double dipping. Not contributing to a second pension funds for a future payout is really not the issue. It would seem that Lauzens income in 2013 will be his salary plus his pension plus his free healthcare paid by the State of IL taxpayers. And John knows this. BTW, legally he may HAVE to pay into the second pension fund.
Martha Hanna December 16, 2012 at 08:18 pm
Great idea Marie, we here in Kane County can put them on the hot seat. The Geneva patch should interview all of our elected officials now! Before we attack teachers pensions let's attack politicans. Why do these elected officials get pensions for life, it needs to stop.
SonofJohn December 16, 2012 at 09:58 pm
Politicians will always take care of them selves, it is in their best interest. Tax the hell out of the citizens of Illinois to support big "public" unions and their pocketbooks and those of the politicians as well.
J rogers December 16, 2012 at 10:00 pm
The biggest crook in all of Illinois is outfit connected, Obama supporter Kirk Dillard who refused to investigate serious ethics violations under the Edgar administration because he could not stand up to the Cellinis. Now he is in Springfield pandering to illegals to give them drivers licenses--the ychould be deported. And Dillard is voting to increase pension of payrollers and appointees be and Janis Cellini put on the payroll.
John December 16, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Lauzen's ex opponent said...
Is Chris Lauzen going to collect his pension from the State AND take the salary from the citizens of Kane County?? That, though completely legal, is double dipping. I don't know but maybe she can ask someone in her own very close family like circle? Do these politicians really think that their neighbors are so stupid?
Ron December 16, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Did you even take the time to actually read the article above? It says nothing about the private sector and you chose to pile on and say 'tax pensions' but you forgot to mention anything about social security or the private sector. Remember, the private sector never said a word about pensions for decades until it has now become a crisis. Now it's a big deal but only for public employees. That's the way your original message is intended. You now clarified your position on the State of Illinois taxing social security earnings which in a sense is a form of a pension for the private sector.
http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/budget/state-personal-income-taxes-on-pensions-1.aspx If you have any knowledge of an economy you would certainly understand the importance of this state remaining tax free for retirement income. It helps those who are not in the workforce, it attracts people from other states, and can serve as economic development for the state. Forty-three states impose state income taxes on retirement earnings. Why be the 44th so the citizens of this state can move to the remaining six? Then who will foot the bill when they aren't paying any taxes towards the state and they still get away with paying no state income tax. You should try just a basic google search before you just make baseless claims. Use evidence to support your claims.
Robert Enders December 16, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Government pension decisions need to taken out of their hands and given to a body of ordinary citizens. IL politicians seem to believe they have the approval to steal from their constituents to benefit themselves, whether it's back room deals (union heads getting 158K/year pensions from working one day...) to outright theft, Blagojevich is the recent poster child. Term limits and no pension would attract people who truly desire to serve only, and eventually return to private life.
Martha Hanna December 16, 2012 at 11:15 pm
How about you can only collect one pension if you serve in government. How many different pensions does Hastert collect. We keep having this same conversation and everything is the same. We the people need to get mad and demand action now. Forget all the other pension issues in Illinois, concentrate on elected officials in office right now. They all need to be put on the hot seat.
Fran Bram December 16, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Way to end it all, term limits of six years and pension for social security
CAROLE December 17, 2012 at 12:22 am
Amen, Fran.
Jim Court December 17, 2012 at 01:17 am
That should also apply to the Presidency.
Tim T December 17, 2012 at 01:20 am
The voters of Illinois get exactly the government they deserve....and the bill to go along with it. Why do voters continue to elect, then re-elect, then again re-elect numerous times these people? Derrick Smith, The Jackson's, Blago, Ryan, Berrios, Madigan (X2) and the list and the beat go on..........
Dan December 17, 2012 at 03:09 am
Ron, 49 states are in better shape when it comes to having funded thier pension liabilities. Of course we should join the other 43 states that impose state income tax on retirement income that enables them not to just create a mirage of being able make good on the promises made but they actual will have the cash to do it. The reason few were talking about the pension mess in the past is because it has become an increasingly larger problem as pension incomes have increased and our population has aged. Over the past few decades promises were made and than our elected official under taxed us to fullfill those promises. Those that currrently are retired should help make up for the underfunding they benefited from through taxes on their retirement income. Why should our kids pay for the underfunding of the generation before them. If a person working raising a family starting out at relatively low pay level can afford income taxes than the retired person blessed with a similar level of pension income should also be able to pitch in too.
MM December 17, 2012 at 09:09 am
Thank you Scott. And don't forget the republican candidates as well, they were corrupt in Illinois also.
Arlo December 17, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Not true Devils. Get your facts straight and do your homework. A bill was called for a vote in the house during Veto to eliminate general assembly members pensions. It didn't get enough votes, but look to see who voted and how they voted. Very interesting who's good and who's bad!
Greg Nelson December 17, 2012 at 01:00 pm
Chris has been in office since 1983 people, what part of he worked for the pension don't you understand? The system is in play voted by the Democrats and frankly if it is there he has every right to it! It is funny when you point fingers when the finger should point back at many. It cost to run even a local election and for many I included paid out of pocket and got very, very little from anyone. Yes when millions are spent to get a 100K job it does look crazy but that is the facts of elections today. Do we need reform, sure but the question who is going to write the reform. Oh wait the people in office the ones that control ILLINOIS and AMERICA today so what is the answer? I think maybe we should grade the pay on what they have done, so with that Chris should be getting more. Remember if you don't like it vote against and write, call and email to your leaders because if we don't hear it enough we can't change it or just figure --- they don't care!
Arlo December 17, 2012 at 01:06 pm
Judy, your facts are way off. I understand your anger and frustration, but your math is incredibly wrong. You shouldn't just throw numbers our that are completely false and expect to be a credible source. For 10 years of service, they may receive a $100,000.00 pension (The total collected over the remainder of their life, not the annual pension) if they live 30 years after they retire. Please be sensible with your comments and facts.
ag December 17, 2012 at 01:45 pm
What were they doing for the 30 years Lauzen was contributing his 140K in contributions? I'm assuming they invested it and it earned a conservative historical rate of return in the neighborhood of 10%. Pretty dumb article to not take into account this information when drawing comparisons.
and instead look at flat numbers.
Fred Cregier December 19, 2012 at 01:31 am
"Ron", I am curious about your statement that "social security is not federally taxed until it is over 34K". If that is true, I have been ripped off by our federal government for years, paying taxes on my social security at all levels, and my total social gross social security income annually even today is well under 34K!
Can you explain how you got this information? Where does it say in our tax code that social security is not taxable federally until it is over 34K/ Boy, I hope you are right, but unfortunately either you are misinformed or I am misreading your statement in the blog above. Fred Cregier
Tim December 19, 2012 at 02:11 am
Fred,
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p915/index.html Income Thresholds Used in Social Security Taxation Formula for Individual Filers -If you file as an individual and your combined income exceeds $34,000, then up to 85% of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Note, this does not mean you will be taxed at an 85% rate, it means that for every $1 in SS you collect, you can be subject to whatever tax rate you are in (based on your TOTAL income) for $0.85 of that amount. I bet if were to list the REST of your income(i.e. combined income), I could tell you exactly why your paying tax on your SS income.
Granny Gruntz January 10, 2013 at 04:27 pm
*The logic tends to elude me as to why "former Illinois governors" and/or or other elected officials should receive pensions, etc.,
*When they have been sentenced and jailed for corruption and are serving terms in prison - and NOT even in "hard time" prison facilities. *Also - it is about time to establish "term limits"! *Yes - I know they have been "elected"... *Government needs to have "fresh blood" not the same-o, same-o of politicians being in office as long as they can be wheeled in on a gurney. *Why should politicians continue to receive salaries *when they are on "prolonged sick leave" and *unable to attend and participate in legislative sessions for which *they accepted as their sworn obligations *when they swore on the Holy Bible when they accepted office? *Stupid question!!! *Those duly elected officials make sure they receive their "entitlements", regardless, when they are first sworn in to their respective office. *Again - the logic continues to elude me. Granny Gruntz
Danni January 12, 2013 at 04:27 pm
I have been thinking they should be prosecuted under the Hobbs Act.
Danni January 12, 2013 at 04:30 pm
wish I knew you Granny-you are correct-the only answer is a revolt-a revolution-as they try to take away our guns and assets the doomsday clock is at 11:59.
Danni January 12, 2013 at 04:45 pm
thumbs up scotty-except Quinn is not a real person-he is a robot made from feathers and string and madigan pulls the strings. Quinn makes simpering a new art form-didn't you just vomit at "Squeezy the Pension Python?" Was that supposed to be cute? Is that what this mess is-CUTE? Maybe for them-who think they will still get millions in pension $ from us. But not cute for us who are frantic about what they are going to try to do to us next.
BobL January 27, 2013 at 09:27 pm
A Governor, a teacher, any public official convicted of a felony related to their job loses their pension. Also those of you that are living on a public pension, as I am, you do know what you feel about the legislators is similar to what the general public feels about all of us.
dale evans February 3, 2013 at 08:16 pm
The Federal Govt is 'borrowing' from their OWN employees pension fund. The Beast is eating it's own tail.

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