Update: Susan G. Komen For a Cure has reversed its decision to withdraw funding to Planned Parenthood, according to the Huffington Post.
The poll that was include with this article has been removed and will be updated.
Orginally:
Earlier this week, one of the country's leading breast cancer research fundraising organizations decided to not renew grants for Planned Parenthood used to fund breast exams, the Huffington Post reports.
The organization Susan G. Komen for the Cure has since faced pressure from women's health groups, lawmakers and even from some of its own affiliates to reverse the decision and restore its five-year partnership with the health care provider.
Representatives for Susan G. Komen said on Tuesday the organization put in place a new rule that prohibits partnerships with other organizations that are under investigation, according to the Huffington Post. Planned Parenthood currently is under investigation by Congress.
Do you agree with Susan G. Komen's decision?
chuck carroll
6:17 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
too bad politics has to effect breast cancer screening
David M
10:36 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Since it is a fact abortions cause cancer but yet get a check up at a place that causes it hummmm!, maybe we should do breast cancer screenings at all Marlboro factories too! Makes perfect liberal sense.
Nick Swedberg
9:54 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@David M—You should read what Komen says about the alleged cancer risk. http://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/FactorsThatDoNotIncreaseRisk.html
Joan Kaelberer
7:06 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
As a breast cancer survivor, I know the importance of early screening. I was a past supporter of the Susan G. Komen foundation in different ways but I'm done. Their action angers me beyond words.
Nick Swedberg
10:50 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
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Justin Eggar
7:58 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Everybody is going to have a different opinion about this as it's obviously a sensitive issue - and I'm not going to take the bait as there isn't a win for anybody that gets involved in this discussion.
That aside, Susan G Komen is still a good organization and will still have a huge impact on the fight with cancer for years to come. Let's not get carried away with shunning something that is a huge help because we don't like their distribution chain.
Nick Swedberg
10:54 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
A comment was removed because the bulk of it contained inflammatory references that violated our Terms of Use.
Justin Eggar
10:59 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Holy smokes, remind me to turn off email updates... That was one string I could have done without.
Nick Swedberg
7:40 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Justin E—I've tried to catch some of the more "colorful" comments shortly after they were put up.
Lance Mitchell
6:16 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Planned Parenthood is the largest provider of abortion in America. What does abortion have to do with breast cancer? The money Koman raises should go for breast cancer research not helping fund abortions. Good for Koman.
Sandy Kaczmarski
10:09 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
The money that Koman raised for breast cancer went to breast cancer research and breast exams, which were provided by Planned Parenthood. None of the money paid for abortions. Pulling funding only put more women at risk by removing needed health care.
Ralph Cincinatus
7:34 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Politics should be kept out of GOOD charities. We will not be walking for the cure again nor supporting what once was a wonderful cause .
Jimmy
7:56 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
And, we will not miss you - not in the least.
Martha Hanna
8:34 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Actually Ralph, you will be missed. Planned Parenthood is a good organizantion and it needs to continue, end of story.
Christine Kautz
8:39 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mr Carroll,
Could you please site your reference to your comment that abortions cause cancer? I'm curious. As a health care professional , I believe in quality health care for all. Thank you Mr Carroll. Christine Kautz RN
chuck carroll
9:36 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Christine, please read the comments again, i did not make that statement.
Paul Adams
9:22 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Planned Parenthood did over 300,000 abortions last year, and about 41,000 breast cancer screenings. So where do their priorities lie? Get with the facts. I support SGK more after this decision.
Nick Swedberg
10:02 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Paul Adams—I'd like to see the source of your figures. See here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/08/jon-kyl/jon-kyl-says-abortion-services-are-well-over-90-pe/ (this also was posted in another comment).
Paul Adams
10:17 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Nick, from the PolitiFact (cute name, that) story you cite:
Planned Parenthood performend 332,278 abortions last year.
Now, from PP's own website, a quote:
"Ask your health care provider, health department, or staff at your local Planned Parenthood health center about where you can get a mammogram in your area."
Note, PP does not claim to provide these services, but may act as a third party to help someone arrange for a screening for breast cancer. SGK is concerned with breast cancer awareness, early detection and support. Given PP's tangential relationship to the issue, it makes sense for them to reassess their support of PP. And besides, as Todd mentions below, this is not the direct reason for their discontinuation of funding.
Martha Hanna
9:25 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
OK Paul, If men could get abortions we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
John Hankes
9:30 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
The beauty (for some people) is they can post facts(?) Like "abortion causes cancer" then run and hide. Like throwing a hand grenade over a fence.
Nick Swedberg
9:57 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@John Hankes—All opinions are welcome on my site. I try to do the best I can to offer evidence to contrary if someone posts a less-than-entirely true statement.
Todd Sweet
9:31 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Komen for the Cure only pulled funding because of a rule of not giving money to organizations under investigation for wrong-doing. So who wants to tell me that is a bad policy and Komen for the Cure should give money to organizations that are doing illegal things? it just so happens that Planned Parenthood is under investigation for covering up abortions to minors. Considering abortions is 90-some % of their revenue, I don't see why people are so upset except that Planned Parenthood spends so much money on lobbyists to make sure they keep get federal and state funding while being the biggest abortion provider in the USA.
Nick Swedberg
9:52 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Todd—I would suggest looking at what Politifact did on the "90 percent" claim you included in your comment. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/08/jon-kyl/jon-kyl-says-abortion-services-are-well-over-90-pe/ ... I believe other fact checks of Planned Parenthood found that the revenue figure is closer to 15 percent.
Nick Swedberg
10:00 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Todd—Also, I believe the organization is under investigations because of allegations made. The statement you made in your comment has not been proven true.
John Walsh
12:50 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Tood, as pointed out - your 90% claim is an outright false statement. Makes every other element of your statement suspect. The claim that abortions cause cancer is 100% false. There is no medical study that supports that claim. It is, however, a false claim repeated by the anti-abortion crowd, over-and-over. Particularly Catholic anti-abrotion blogs continue to push that Lie. I thought Christians weren't suppose to lie.
John Walsh
12:53 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I believe Penn State University is under investigation...and still gets Susan B. Komen funding.
D Clark
10:02 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Koman contributions up 100% over the past few days...
Just wondering why my comment regarding M Sanger's (PP founder) eugenics history was removed... She sought to sterilize blacks and others that were "unfit"
Todd Sweet
10:06 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Nick, your link just re-states Planned Parenthood numbers. I also am talking about revenue, not procedures. Do you really think Planned Parenthood would be such a controversial subject if abortion was such a small part of their business? :-)
By the way, allegations are why they are under investigation. I never said it was true, just what they are under investigation for it. Of course that is only one reason, the list is too long and off - subject of what Planned Parenthood has done illegally and under investigation for this forum.
Nick Swedberg
10:15 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Todd—To answer your questions specifically directed to me: I think it's safe to assume that PP would be seen as controversial even if the organization only performed a single procedure a year.
Paul
10:14 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Nick - Thanks for the continued fact checks. People are too quick to regurgitate without checking. Here is another interesting article on Komen (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html). Are they really about helping people or making money?
Justin Eggar
10:27 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Paul - As a business owner it is vital to protect your organizations image. When other companies began coming a little too close to your trademark it can water down the value of your brand or it can tie you to issues occuring in the other organizations.
To be fair, several of the posts have been about the monetary value derived from abortion... which Nick responded to with numbers on volume of services (and not cost). I like Nick, he seems like a swell guy, but to be fair that was a bit of apples and oranges. A correct post would be "no, you're wrong, it's not 90% because here it says that the cost of those services is only 10%". That might be the case, but I believe the cost of abortion is likely substantially higher than an exam (whichever type it might be).
Back on task - Your taking SGK to task over trademark infringement is like scolding McDonalds for suing me over my new franchise "McDoogalds Burgers". In summary, that information is rather off topic and SGK was justified in protecting brand.
Nick Swedberg
10:34 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Justin—You make a valid point. I should have articulated it better. The burden of proof is on the person who made the original point to demonstrate how ~10 percent of procedures account for 90 percent of revenue.
Nick Swedberg
10:37 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Justin—More from Politifact: http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/apr/21/ronald-renuart/florida-republican-says-abortions-make-37-percent-/
Paul
11:18 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
But you've made my point. They are a business. Big business at that. Water down what brand? The brand to help people or the brand that makes their execs huge money?
Plenty of people have looked into where the money goes. 10 cents of every dollar donated goes "for the cure". Why stop other people from helping to save lives by fighting a trademark on the color pink or the words "for the cure"? Because they aren't there to save lives. They are there to make money. Sign up for a Komen event and go around asking friends for their hard earned money to fight the cause of breast cancer and tell them how the money is divided up at the Komen Headquarters and see how many will donate. Or do like most and say that 100% of donations go to fight "for the cure".
http://butterbeliever.com/2011/10/22/i-will-not-be-pinkwashed-why-i-do-not-support-susan-g-komen-for-the-cure/
Sorry I am off topic for this article, but Komen has disappointed more than once...
Justin Eggar
12:06 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I didn't make your point. If you want to state "I don't support non-profits that pay their execs a large amount" then that is a point we can discuss. But saying "SGK shouldn't inforce a brand image because they are a non-profit that helps people" doesn't seem to make sense. If companies didn't suffer a negative impact because of brand dilution or whatever else, they wouldn't work so hard to protect it. Should "Planned Parenthood" not be bothered by a business named "Planned Parenting" which does exactly what they do? No, when you do a google search for that it pulls up Planned Parenthood. Because image and brand identification does matter. Charity doesn't mean that you should run your business poorly.
Again, if you want to discuss salaries and the effectiveness of their sponsors donations, that's well and good and we can have that discussion. But, as you said, it's muddying the waters to bring it up in conjunction with the initial article you posted.
marsha engle
10:19 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
What a hornet's nest!
Nick Swedberg
10:24 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
@Marsha—Ha! Right you are. :-)
Martha Hanna
10:25 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
There is no evidence that the evil PP has illegally funneled funds. The Hyde amendment has been in place for years, and PP is routinely audited by the inspector general and medicare. Rep. Cliff Stearns and his pals want to end abortion period. Get out your coat hangers ladies, and raise them high in protest!!
John Walsh
12:58 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
rock on martha! abortions used to be illegal, yet they were being performed. If the radical anti-abortionist got there way...abortions would still continue - just illegally and in a manner that endangers the life of women. Next, they would have to arrest and jail women for having abortions. Of course, they will have the government intrude into the lives of women...and investigate every "miscarriage" for criminal activity. You bet the private jail corporations want more women prisoners to jail - all for the sake of a profit.
Paul
11:25 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Look at that...Komen just reversed their decision.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/03/politics/planned-parenthood-komen-foundation/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Martha Hanna
11:36 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
yes!
Christine Kautz
1:41 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
My apologies to Mr Carroll. David M could you Cite your reference please about abortion and cancer?
I guess we all got our undies in a wad for nothing, Komen not only did a U-turn, but they apologized too!
Christine Kautz
Todd Sweet
1:53 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Not so fast.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/02/03/komen-board-member-havent-caved-on-planned-parenthood-funding/
Nick Swedberg
10:28 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
@Todd—Thank you for posting that.