Letter to the Editor: PURE Gardener Owners Say Please Don't Tear Down History
"It would be a great loss for the community to replace this gem with a new bank drive-through and parking lot."
To the Editor:
On Monday afternoon, we, Annette and Craig MacLean, owners of The PURE Gardener, 502 W. State St., Geneva, were told of plans to replace the building and our current garden center business, with a new bank drive through and parking lot.
The project is proposed by St. Charles Bank and Trust, part of Wintrust Financial Corporation, based in Lake Forest, IL, with assets over $15 billion dollars, according to their website.
The historic building became home to The PURE Gardener in November 2006, when former owner and auto repair operator Joe Kuchera sold the building to Joe Stanton. The closing and later demolition of Geneva Greenhouse on Western Avenue left us without a place to work, but we were able to lease the property from Stanton to open as a garden center, which we continue to operate.
The focus of The PURE Gardener, has been to provide the community with a source of gardening information and products which are safer, healthier and more responsible to use. Our slogan, "We give excellent service, naturally," is an extension of our awareness of the superior results obtained through organic products and practices. We do not sell chemical poisons. We freely share our knowledge within our community so that everyone has the chance to be happier, healthier and more environmentally responsible.
This historic building on the Lincoln Highway map, and pictured in books and articles, attracts tourists from all over the country every year. It would be a great loss for the community to replace this gem with a new bank drive-through and parking lot. A similar former Pure Oil building in Saratoga Springs, NY, was faced with demolition in 1976, but was moved and saved for continued use as a viable business.
Annette and I would like to continue to provide our knowledge and service. We are blessed that we can work, live and raise our family in Geneva. We are grateful for the support of all of our customers and friends, who keep us going.
Annette and Craig MacLean
owners of The PURE Gardener,
Geneva
Heather Charpentier
11:17 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Really? Another BANK on State Street? Aren't there already 5 or more banks on State St.?
Lois Lane
11:17 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Just an appalling idea! I sent an email last night to the Geneva Preservation Society regarding this issue. Hopefully at their meeting this evening they can find a way to stop this demolition!
Noel G. Rooks
11:24 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Too sad. I hope my post here at the Patch can help raise awareness for you all and the building.
Lance Mitchell
11:32 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
We have enough banks. Banks don't generate any sales tax income for the city.
chuck carroll
3:22 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I bet the increase in property tax after the improvement is far greater than the city sales tax from the flower shop.
Lorr Ochsner
11:37 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
That important little building with the 'rain spliter' roof is an asset to State Street. The corner is beautiful with plants and flowers around it, Pure Gardener is a wonderful place to purchase strong healthy plants. Must we go to surrounding towns to make purchases? Must Geneva loose yet more sales tax money?
And what happens to the Art Box? They are building up a wonderful business there. And the new photography studio next to them? More sales tax money thrown away. Are we to loose the charm of State St. for yet another branch bank? FYI, a bank does not contribute financially to a cities economy, and certainly not to it's ambiance. I see no benefit to putting a St. Charles Bank on State St.
Colin C. Campbell
11:38 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
PLEASE---ALL of you who treasure the historic buildings of Geneva, come to the meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission at 7pm tonight at the Public Works Building on South Street and let them know how you feel about this. Your opinion, shared at this meeting, WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!
Melanie
11:49 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I love the Pure Gardner! Not another Bank! I agree with everyone else, The Pure Gardner adds charm to our city...you never hear that about a bank...
Terry Flanagan
11:52 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Not that we need another bank, since as Lance points out, banks don't generate any sales tax revenue. But if we did, it would make more sense in the post office, which could probably be better adapted to banking operations, while still preserving most of the building facade. We wouldn't be sacrificing a retail operation either. Nor would we be losing a unique building and one of the last independent garden shops in the area.
Val E.
11:57 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Maybe it's time to "occupy" the site in protest to yet another bank.
julie hillery
11:59 am on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I agree with Colin Campbell - - we need to attend the meeting tonight and voice our opinions about this. We can definitely make a difference...I saw this happen several years ago when a rail port was proposed for Geneva. See you all at the meeting!
Sue Pfaff
12:00 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
There are more than enough "banks" in downtown Geneva. People come from all over to the Pure Gardener - it is what Geneva is all about. Please reconsider. Sue Pfaff
Storm Nielsen
12:17 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
The Pure Gardener is a little gem amid the downtown. Both the building and the business itself are a draw and an asset. It seems to me that if the home on Hamilton and North Fifth Street was not allowed to be demolished for a bank, this historic little building is even more important in saving.
Drive thrus should remain on the outskirts of town, not in the business section of town. Aren't there enough empty buildings on Randall?
Besides that, has this bank even considered the remediation costs of the property itself? Afterall, it was a gas station for most of its life.
Robin Puetrucha
12:30 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
We don't need another bank in Geneva! The Pure Gardener is in a beautiful building that shouldn't be torn down!! I agree wholeheartedly with everyone's comments. I'm sorry I can't make it to the meeting tonight, but best of luck to those who will be there:-)
Autumn Burns
12:36 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
There is nothing else profound to say about the possibility of losing this business and the building. It is frustrating and sad. I look forward to each change of season and how beautiful the PURE Gardener changes with the seasons. It is a wonderful business in a great location for visitors and resident alike.
So my comment here is to openly appeal to the property owner and my friend Joe Stanton.
Joe, I simply ask that you rethink doing anything with this property than what it is used for today. Honestly, there is nothing good that would come from shutting The PURE Gardener down, demolishing that quaint historic building and adding a bank. Nothing.
The online outcry on Facebook, Twitter and emails has been overwhelming this morning. Anger and frustration permeates every post.
Sometimes change is good and inevitable. Sometimes it is not. This is a case of "not."
Rudy
10:44 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I think its a ploy to build interest in this piece of property by Mr. Stanton. He knows the historic district won't let him touch it and just wants to sell it for a HUGE profit. Sad to see the depths some people will go to. I could be wrong I don't know the man hes either very shrewd or very ignorant?
Dick and Mary Stavenhagen
1:19 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
We'd like to chime in, "ANOTHER BANK?" tHAT'S WHAT OUR CITY NEEDS? NO SALES TAX. Mr. Stanton needs to weigh personal gain against what is best for our City. We assume he makes a comfortable living from his many real estate holdings in Geneva. Why destroy a historic property and a successful, retail, tax producing, business for more personal gain and another greedy bank? We will support every effort to stop this proposed property and business demolition
Doug Cuscaden
2:49 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Discussion about the future of this property is appropriate, personal attacks at Mr. Stanton are unwarranted, especially by people such as "Rudy" and the "Stavenhagens" that do not even know the 1st thing about him or the situation. Apart from the fact that the commercial real estate market is awful and that Mr. Stanton also needs to feed himself, presumably with rent from tenants that pay, let's recall the following before villifying him as a latter-day robber baron: He won the 2011 Wood Memorial from the Geneva Chamber of Commerce for community service; he insured that the Geneva Theater sign would remain in place for use in public service announcements; he's on the Board of numerous not for profit organizations and provides both money and services for advertising and printing for charity events. And these are only a few examples! If the rest of us did 10% as much for this City we wouldn't have to spend so much time worrying about this property. By the way: is it possible to begin a reply with something more literate than "Really?"
Doug Cuscaden
2:49 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Discussion about the future of this property is appropriate, personal attacks at Mr. Stanton are unwarranted, especially by people such as "Rudy" and the "Stavenhagens" that do not even know the 1st thing about him or the situation. Apart from the fact that the commercial real estate market is awful and that Mr. Stanton also needs to feed himself, presumably with rent from tenants that pay, let's recall the following before villifying him as a latter-day robber baron: He won the 2011 Wood Memorial from the Geneva Chamber of Commerce for community service; he insured that the Geneva Theater sign would remain in place for use in public service announcements; he's on the Board of numerous not for profit organizations and provides both money and services for advertising and printing for charity events. And these are only a few examples! If the rest of us did 10% as much for this City we wouldn't have to spend so much time worrying about this property. By the way: is it possible to begin a reply with something more literate than "Really?"
Betty Collins
2:00 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Another bank? Now there's something we sure don't need. Seems like there are stories frequently about another one failing! Support for local small businesses is mandatory for the econmic recovery of our area. Banks sure have done enough damage already. We certainly don't need to be tearing down historic buildings to accomodate another one, with no assurance that it will be here tomorrow!
Nancy Bell
2:29 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Betty you took the words right out of my mouth. I could add that Geneva is opening the door to be more like Batavia with all the drive through's in the heart of that downtown.
Gracie
2:03 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Come on Joe, say it ain't so.
E. Louise Pruitt
2:09 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Please don't destroy a darling little building. I grew up in Geneva and my father always took his car for service at Clark's Pure Oil Station. I played around the parking and watched the cars go in and out "dinging" the bell for gas. If you need another bank (which I doubt) use the building on 3rd st. that once was the 1st National Bank. It's ready for occupancy.
Andrea Henderson
2:09 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
OMG!!! REALLY...yet another bank!! Are there enough people/business that are going to support this proposed bank? That's right...let's build another bank to see it closed in 9 months with a "FOR LEASE" sign in its window!! PLEASE let these small but PASSIONATE business owners remain in their spot and keep this corner beauteous as it is...not another blase bank!!!
Carla Hibbard
2:54 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Hear, hear!
Emily Rogers
2:30 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Please NO. The suggestion for a bank at the old USBank site is wonderful. Filling an empty space rather than tearing down a well-used and beautiful business. Please listen to the locals Joe.
Rod Nelson
2:43 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Isn't there both a vacant bank and a vacant lot on State Street within a couple blocks?
Carla Hibbard
2:52 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I am SHOCKED by the suggestion of this plan. Do we want Geneva known for our Banks or cute shops in repourposed buildings? There is already a vacant bank building on N. 3rd and Hamilton- how about fixing that space up??
chuck carroll
3:15 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
If a bank didn't make sense then the free enterprise system would stop it from happening. I doubt that anyone who analyzes the best use of that property would conclude that a 6 month a year flower business is at the top of the list. If the concerned citizens want to preserve the building then make the owner an offer. Otherwise do not take away his property rights.
Paul Bryant
3:49 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Merriam-Webster defines a hypocrite as...
- a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Based on your comment above you may want to change your profile here on Patch...
About Chuck
Geneva resident for 20 years, mildly interested in politics. Wants Geneva to stay Geneva. We have traditions and standards that I bought into when I decided to move here. Let's not change them because of short term economic or political issues.
chuck carroll
4:00 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
That building other than reminding us old timers of our past has no significance to our traditions or standards. Do we celebrate Lincoln Highway at that location? How does it impact anyone other than a little nostalgia when we drive by? We all have ignored it until now that someone has a better use. Knee jerk reactions are too late.
Paul Bryant
4:11 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
It is exactly the reminder of our past that makes the loss of that building unfathomable for many in Geneva. That and the thought of kicking small business to the curb for the sake of another branch bank needing a drive thru.
Is that the Geneva you envisioned when you moved here?
Noel G. Rooks
5:21 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
That's a valid point. Chuck. However, I would point out that StC Bank already operates a Geneva location. While I cannot for certain claim that their intention is to close their current operation and move to the new one, that would make sense in the current climate. Thus, the only new net jobs for Geneva are temp construction. As for people "coming out of the wall" to discuss this - I shop at the PURE Gardener. It is open year round. I support our downtown businesses. One of the things that lure people to Geneva is the historic charm of our downtown. The building is a part of that and is a historic landmark. St Charles Bank is also a welcome local business; they are a division of Wintrust, but do many things locally also. We would welcome them with open arms downtown - just not in the Pure Oil building.
Annette MacLean
8:30 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
With all due respect Chuck, we are more than just a 6 month a year flower business. We are a four season business. For many HS students we are their first job. We employ them from 9th grade and send them off to college. If you were at the meeting last night, you may have seen a few of them. We are a place where citizens chose to spend their lunch breaks. Customers come from all over the country not only to see the PURE Oil building but also because they love our shop and we are told so on a regular basis. We are involved in many community activities including the Geneva Christmas Walk, The Festival of the Vine, Swedish Days, and countless fundraisers. Many long hours on are involved on their behalf- including blood, sweat and tears (Craig's blood, my sweat & tears) making sure the presentations are a success for the city. We are a significant tourist attraction which not only benefits us but also benefits all the downtown businesses.
Karl Brubaker
3:22 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Great grass-roots effort here people. I don't live in Geneva but love seeing that little building every day and checking out the various plants that are sold. It's a charming building in a perfect location. I hope Geneva realizes that the value of that building and business above the bricks and mortar.
Ask Galena if "charm" is important.
Annette MacLean
3:33 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
The Pure Gardener is a four season business- open Spring, summer, fall and winter.
James Parnell
3:34 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I don't think anyone would deny the fact that Mr. Stanton has every right to do whatever he wants with that property, but just because you "can" do it doesn't mean you should. I have the right to paint my house flaming pink with yellow trim but I never would because I wouldn't want to devalue my neighbors property. Mr. Stanton might want to weigh the costs of bad public relations if he takes away what appears to be a much loved local business to replace it with a less desirable but more personally profitable business. Just saying.
chuck carroll
3:41 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
The current owner would be doing the local economy a favor, construction and banking jobs. Your flaming pink house would not.
If the citizens of Geneva really cared about saving historic buildings they would have an ordinance that was preventative rather than reactive. Additionally citizens would have a fund for purchasing buildings that need saving. Otherwise this is all rhetoric.
Melissa Pazen
4:06 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I believe all of us in the United States celebrate free enterprise.
However, as a former retail sales establishment owner/operator, I can only say it continues to be difficult for small businesses in our economy.
My mother-in-law gave me a check with a memo "Happy Planting" in lieu of flowers for Valentines Day. I DON'T want to use it at a 'big box' store. I hope The PURE Gardener can continue in its current location or at another near downtown Geneva.
Storm Nielsen
4:30 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
It appears to me Chuck, that the property mentioned here lies within Geneva's Historic District. Since that is the case, its renovation or demolition will be reviewed and considered by its committee.
One of the reasons for having an historic district is not only to promote the city's vintage buildings as well as confirm upgrades, demolitions and such that would have a diminishing effect upon the district and city.
So, as an "old timer' i would have thought you were well aware of this.
But, I'll also ask again, is this bank aware that the property was a gas station? Do they realize there may be certain factors involved in cleaning up the property? If my memory is correct, I do not recall any amelioration of the property. Judging by the property's appearance, it doesn't look like anything was done. You know, things like environmental studies to determine if the underground gas tanks leaked (most did in the older stations), how much of a plume or spread has occurred and how much soil has been contaminated to what depth.
Sometimes the cost of cleanup deters any type of demolition.
But what the heck, maybe the bank has money to throw around.
chuck carroll
4:59 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
as an old timer i also know that the ordinance allows the building to fall down but might prevent it from being torn down. If we really cared about these buildings we would require they be maintained. I believe that was a LUST site that Huff and Huff cleaned up a long time ago.
Storm Nielsen
5:13 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Depends on what they did. If it was a LUST site, then there would be data. I do know that the Cetron building had some cleanup performed. But, in my opinion, the cleanup was not sufficient.
As for your other comment, looks like the building has been cared for. But, your suggestion makes sense. Just how do you make an owner of a building keep it maintained?
Kyle Ransom
4:33 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
History repeats itself! Anybody remember the plans Mr. Stanton had for 317 South Third? Thankfully, public outcry and a buyer with wisdom enough to understand just how important that building was to the City of Geneva, saved the beautiful landmark. Mr. Carroll is correct in his assertion that the owner may do as he wishes with his property, but he unnecessarily trivializes a business/property that many of us have grown to love. The Pure Gardener is open for business year round.
Storm Nielsen
4:36 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
What are you saying Kyle, a ploy?
Noel G. Rooks
5:31 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Another valid point, what of remediation? Has that been explored?
Noel G. Rooks
5:44 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Also, folks, come to the meeting...tonight at 7!
Bobbi Schoenenberger
5:45 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Aside from the fact that I am old enough to remember CLARKS PURE OIL with affection and I love that blue and white building...I also love Geneva...The Geneva we enjoy today is here because thoughtful people before us have worked hard to save buildings and trees and institutions that were about to be destroyed..Now it is our turn to stand up and save this small piece of history from the 1930s which has been resurected into the charming Pure Gardner...Keeping Geneva beautiful is our most potent economic weapon.... Bobbi Schoenenberger
Colin C. Campbell
6:39 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
The comments that imply that a property owner has the right to do whatever he or she wishes with their property are simply and totally incorrect. Virtually every city and town in America has building codes and zoning laws that are designed to protect both the owner and the community. These restrict what can be built where and how buildings must be built and maintained. Owners must comply with these regulations or face penalties.
In addition, in Geneva (as in many other towns) we have areas designated as "historical districts" and listed in the National Register of Historical Places. This places further restrictions on what can and cannot be done to structures in these areas.
It is the responsibility of the owner to know and follow these restrictions. Mr. Stanton is well aware of them and is asking the City to waive them in this instance so that he can demolish a building has been declared a significant contributor to our historical district.
Anyone can go the the City of Geneva web site and read all of the regulations that pertain for yourselves.
Deb Nielsen
6:51 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
I love going to that location to buy plants. I prefer to spend money on a local business before going to a box store to buy plants. .
B.A. Paczki
7:13 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Joe Stanton has demostrated time and time again his love for Geneva. We should give Mr. Stanton the benefit of the doubt and hear what he has to say.
Lois Lane
7:47 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Then B.A. Paczki perhaps you should be at tonight's meeting to hear what Mr. Stanton has to say. It's getting late, better scoot!
Bob McQuillan
9:15 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
The residents of Geneva are $325.6 million dollars in debt due to "over the top school facilities" and yet only a handful of people show up at a school board meeting to ask how the debt will be repaid. Those that dare ask questions, are painted as trouble makers. Yet residents are more upset that an "old" building might be torn down and demand that the property owner do what is "right" for Geneva. Trouble makers, of course not! These same residents don't understand their ability to remain living in Geneva is being threatened with debt repayments that will increase by 10 million dollars within 5 years! Are the "Save Pure Oil" people urging fellow residents to attend the school board meeting on Monday 27th? Of course not, no one should question school board members.
The average property tax bill will increase $1,000 per year within the next 5 years and yet the majority of the community ignore this fact. The school board refuses to even provide a 5-year financial projection for it's taxpayers. They cite "too many variables," but they had no problem using projections when they wanted new school buildings.
Soon we won't need to worry about saving historic buildings in Geneva, we will be too busy watching and helping our neighbors move out of town.
Go to www.GenevaTaxFACTS.org and read about the REAL problem facing Every Geneva School District Taxpayer. Saving the Pure Oil building doesn't measure up to the REAL problem. Get involved before it's too late to matter.
Justin Eggar
11:07 pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2012
Bob, I appreciate that you are passionate about what you are trying to accomplish. That said, the constant off-topic posts though are below you... And we don't need somebody spamming their business non stop (eve if it is a not for profit).
If you want to get everyone's attention, please focus your efforts on a blog or the like and not hi-jacking threads. It diminishes the value of not only the thread, but also your own agenda. Thanks!
Kyle Ransom
8:59 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
@Storm wasn't making any inference. Just thinking about the frustration my friend felt when Mr. Stanton announced his plans for the Third Street property. To his credit, he offered an interim location for her business and a place in the new structure upon completion. Not a very practical/appropriate solution. Thankfully, the building sold. Unfortunately, the rent skyrocketed. Geneva lost a lovely business, but gained Fiora. Lesson learned, NEVER open a retail business unless/until you are prepared to purchase your own property. Sad to think that such a charming little piece of Geneva may disappear and I feel bad for the tenet who may be displaced.